the-tutor Google forums en-US Sat, 20 Mar 2010 13:16:57 +0000 bbpress 1.0-alpha-2 q http://www.googletutor.com/forums/search.php http://www.googletutor.com/forums/topic/h1-tags-and-hyperlinks/page/4#post-107 Fri, 07 Nov 2008 15:16:41 +0000 10minutes 107@http://www.googletutor.com/forums/ <p>Well the original thought process was that the H1 is the most identifiable font format for on page optimization next to perhaps the meta title &#38; description. If you take that biggest factor and link it to another page all about the topic then maybe just maybe that'll help.</p> <p>More than anything though this isn't exactly a practice of ours but more or less a question simply proposed with the inside joke mentioned above. </p> http://www.googletutor.com/forums/topic/why-arent-directories-considered-paid-links/page/4#post-106 Fri, 07 Nov 2008 15:14:22 +0000 10minutes 106@http://www.googletutor.com/forums/ <p>If I had it my way my clients would buy links all the time. However I'm not talking about buying links for the purpose of improving rankings; I'd rather buy links from websites that will drive targeted traffic to my client websites and a lot of it.</p> <p>Should one of those paid directories / websites pass a little link love then that is an added advantage and not the primary focus.</p> <p>I can almost always identify traffic generating websites and low quality link love passing websites with the following principle (among others):</p> <p>- Traffic Generating Websites - Cost several hundred a year or month.<br /> - Low quality link love passing websites - $10 - $100 per year tops.</p> <p>Anyone agree or disagree? </p> http://www.googletutor.com/forums/topic/h1-tags-and-hyperlinks/page/4#post-105 Fri, 07 Nov 2008 15:13:03 +0000 The Tutor 105@http://www.googletutor.com/forums/ <p>I do have thoughts, I'll try to follow up with more later, but I had to ask -- why the focus on linking the &lt;h1&gt;? </p> http://www.googletutor.com/forums/topic/h1-tags-and-hyperlinks/page/4#post-97 Fri, 07 Nov 2008 14:44:54 +0000 10minutes 97@http://www.googletutor.com/forums/ <p>This is a funny post but mostly due to the inside joke behind it. This was the exact question posed to Jeremy aka footinmouth when he became the Manager of our department and still wet behind his ears with SEO related practices. This very question is asked of him every couple of months just for the hell of it.</p> <p>@The Tutor</p> <p>I don't think you answered his question but I also don't think he asked it right or was clear enough on it either. However your answer of course is still useful to anyone reading it and then applying your thoughts into their actions.</p> <p>Let me expand on his question a little...</p> <p>Let's take the desired keyword, "Denver Real Estate". We have clients that are always clamoring to be #1 for that specific term; nothing else matters.</p> <p>The first thing we try to do is make the home page relevant to the term using quality unique content with partial use and full use of the keyword term, proper font modifications (H, Bold, Italics etc.) image alt text, anchor text links etc.</p> <p>At that point we realize that the term is competitive enough that one page isn't going to be enough to convince Google that our client(s) site is more relevant than others based off of one well optimized home page so we might start creating pages for the following topics:</p> <p>- Denver Economy<br /> - Denver Schools<br /> - Denver Foreclosures<br /> - Denver Relocation<br /> - Denver Transportation</p> <p>Of course each of these pages would be optimized appropriately and while the H1 might say, "Denver Economy" or what have you; we would strive to find a way to slip in "Denver real estate".</p> <p>So what Jeremy is asking... </p> <p>From the home page H1; is it ok to say link out to the Denver Relocation page or another Denver page which then might tie into the other pages created to purposefully boost over all site relevancy to the Denver related term at the risk of telling search engines, "This is the key focus on the home page BUT check out this page..."</p> <p>Thoughts? </p> http://www.googletutor.com/forums/topic/h1-tags-and-hyperlinks/page/4#post-96 Fri, 07 Nov 2008 14:43:54 +0000 10minutes 96@http://www.googletutor.com/forums/ <p>This is a funny post but mostly due to the inside joke behind it. This was the exact question posed to Jeremy aka footinmouth when he became the Manager of our department and still wet behind his ears with SEO related practices. This very question is asked of him every couple of months just for the hell of it.</p> <p>@The Tutor</p> <p>I don't think you answered his question but I also don't think he asked it right or was clear enough on it either. However your answer of course is still useful to anyone reading it and then applying your thoughts into their actions.</p> <p>Let me expand on his question a little...</p> <p>Let's take the desired keyword, "Denver Real Estate". We have clients that are always clamoring to be #1 for that specific term; nothing else matters.</p> <p>The first thing we try to do is make the home page relevant to the term using quality unique content with partial use and full use of the keyword term, proper font modifications (H, Bold, Italics etc.) image alt text, anchor text links etc.</p> <p>At that point we realize that the term is competitive enough that one page isn't going to be enough to convince Google that our client(s) site is more relevant than others based off of one well optimized home page so we might start creating pages for the following topics:</p> <p>- Denver Economy<br /> - Denver Schools<br /> - Denver Foreclosures<br /> - Denver Relocation<br /> - Denver Transportation</p> <p>Of course each of these pages would be optimized appropriately and while the H1 might say, "Denver Economy" or what have you; we would strive to find a way to slip in "Denver real estate".</p> <p>So what Jeremy is asking... </p> <p>From the home page H1; is it ok to say link out to the Denver Relocation page or another Denver page which then might tie into the other pages created to purposefully boost over all site relevancy to the Denver related term at the risk of telling search engines, "This is the key focus on the home page BUT check out this page..."</p> <p>Thoughts? </p> http://www.googletutor.com/forums/topic/h1-tags-and-hyperlinks/page/4#post-95 Fri, 07 Nov 2008 14:39:09 +0000 10minutes 95@http://www.googletutor.com/forums/ <p>This is a funny post but mostly due to the inside joke behind it. This was the exact question posed to Jeremy aka footinmouth when he became the Manager of our department and still wet behind his ears with SEO related practices. This very question is asked of him every couple of months just for the hell of it.</p> <p>@The Tutor</p> <p>I don't think you answered his question but I also don't think he asked it right or was clear enough on it either. However your answer of course is still useful to anyone reading it and then applying your thoughts into their actions.</p> <p>Let me expand on his question a little...</p> <p>Let's take the desired keyword, "Denver Real Estate". We have clients that are always clamoring to be #1 for that specific term; nothing else matters.</p> <p>The first thing we try to do is make the home page relevant to the term using quality unique content with partial use and full use of the keyword term, proper font modifications (H, Bold, Italics etc.) image alt text, anchor text links etc.</p> <p>At that point we realize that the term is competitive enough that one page isn't going to be enough to convince Google that our client(s) site is more relevant than others based off of one well optimized home page so we might start creating pages for the following topics:</p> <p>- Denver Economy<br /> - Denver Schools<br /> - Denver Foreclosures<br /> - Denver Relocation<br /> - Denver Transportation</p> <p>Of course each of these pages would be optimized appropriately and while the H1 might say, "Denver Economy" or what have you; we would strive to find a way to slip in "Denver real estate".</p> <p>So what Jeremy is asking... </p> <p>From the home page H1; is it ok to say link out to the Denver Relocation page or another Denver page which then might tie into the other pages created to purposefully boost over all site relevancy to the Denver related term at the risk of telling search engines, "This is the key focus on the home page BUT check out this page..."</p> <p>Thoughts? </p> http://www.googletutor.com/forums/topic/h1-tags-and-hyperlinks/page/4#post-94 Fri, 07 Nov 2008 14:37:16 +0000 10minutes 94@http://www.googletutor.com/forums/ <p>This is a funny post but mostly due to the inside joke behind it. This was the exact question posed to Jeremy aka footinmouth when he became the Manager of our department and still wet behind his ears with SEO related practices. This very question is asked of him every couple of months just for the hell of it.</p> <p>@The Tutor</p> <p>I don't think you answered his question but I also don't think he asked it right or was clear enough on it either. However your answer of course is still useful to anyone reading it and then applying your thoughts into their actions.</p> <p>Let me expand on his question a little...</p> <p>Let's take the desired keyword, "Denver Real Estate". We have clients that are always clamoring to be #1 for that specific term; nothing else matters.</p> <p>The first thing we try to do is make the home page relevant to the term using quality unique content with partial use and full use of the keyword term, proper font modifications (H, Bold, Italics etc.) image alt text, anchor text links etc.</p> <p>At that point we realize that the term is competitive enough that one page isn't going to be enough to convince Google that our client(s) site is more relevant than others based off of one well optimized home page so we might start creating pages for the following topics:</p> <p>- Denver Economy<br /> - Denver Schools<br /> - Denver Foreclosures<br /> - Denver Relocation<br /> - Denver Transportation</p> <p>Of course each of these pages would be optimized appropriately and while the H1 might say, "Denver Economy" or what have you; we would strive to find a way to slip in "Denver real estate".</p> <p>So what Jeremy is asking... </p> <p>From the home page H1; is it ok to say link out to the Denver Relocation page or another Denver page which then might tie into the other pages created to purposefully boost over all site relevancy to the Denver related term at the risk of telling search engines, "This is the key focus on the home page BUT check out this page..."</p> <p>Thoughts? </p> http://www.googletutor.com/forums/topic/h1-tags-and-hyperlinks/page/4#post-93 Fri, 07 Nov 2008 14:35:45 +0000 10minutes 93@http://www.googletutor.com/forums/ <p>This is a funny post but mostly due to the inside joke behind it. This was the exact question posed to Jeremy aka footinmouth when he became the Manager of our department and still wet behind his ears with SEO related practices. This very question is asked of him every couple of months just for the hell of it.</p> <p>@The Tutor</p> <p>I don't think you answered his question but I also don't think he asked it right or was clear enough on it either. However your answer of course is still useful to anyone reading it and then applying your thoughts into their actions.</p> <p>Let me expand on his question a little...</p> <p>Let's take the desired keyword, "Denver Real Estate". We have clients that are always clamoring to be #1 for that specific term; nothing else matters.</p> <p>The first thing we try to do is make the home page relevant to the term using quality unique content with partial use and full use of the keyword term, proper font modifications (H, Bold, Italics etc.) image alt text, anchor text links etc.</p> <p>At that point we realize that the term is competitive enough that one page isn't going to be enough to convince Google that our client(s) site is more relevant than others based off of one well optimized home page so we might start creating pages for the following topics:</p> <p>- Denver Economy<br /> - Denver Schools<br /> - Denver Foreclosures<br /> - Denver Relocation<br /> - Denver Transportation</p> <p>Of course each of these pages would be optimized appropriately and while the H1 might say, "Denver Economy" or what have you; we would strive to find a way to slip in "Denver real estate".</p> <p>So what Jeremy is asking... </p> <p>From the home page H1; is it ok to say link out to the Denver Relocation page or another Denver page which then might tie into the other pages created to purposefully boost over all site relevancy to the Denver related term at the risk of telling search engines, "This is the key focus on the home page BUT check out this page..."</p> <p>Thoughts? </p> http://www.googletutor.com/forums/topic/h1-tags-and-hyperlinks/page/4#post-92 Fri, 07 Nov 2008 14:34:58 +0000 10minutes 92@http://www.googletutor.com/forums/ <p>This is a funny post but mostly due to the inside joke behind it. This was the exact question posed to Jeremy aka footinmouth when he became the Manager of our department and still wet behind his ears with SEO related practices. This very question is asked of him every couple of months just for the hell of it.</p> <p>@The Tutor</p> <p>I don't think you answered his question but I also don't think he asked it right or was clear enough on it either. However your answer of course is still useful to anyone reading it and then applying your thoughts into their actions.</p> <p>Let me expand on his question a little...</p> <p>Let's take the desired keyword, "Denver Real Estate". We have clients that are always clamoring to be #1 for that specific term; nothing else matters.</p> <p>The first thing we try to do is make the home page relevant to the term using quality unique content with partial use and full use of the keyword term, proper font modifications (H, Bold, Italics etc.) image alt text, anchor text links etc.</p> <p>At that point we realize that the term is competitive enough that one page isn't going to be enough to convince Google that our client(s) site is more relevant than others based off of one well optimized home page so we might start creating pages for the following topics:</p> <p>- Denver Economy<br /> - Denver Schools<br /> - Denver Foreclosures<br /> - Denver Relocation<br /> - Denver Transportation</p> <p>Of course each of these pages would be optimized appropriately and while the H1 might say, "Denver Economy" or what have you; we would strive to find a way to slip in "Denver real estate".</p> <p>So what Jeremy is asking... </p> <p>From the home page H1; is it ok to say link out to the Denver Relocation page or another Denver page which then might tie into the other pages created to purposefully boost over all site relevancy to the Denver related term at the risk of telling search engines, "This is the key focus on the home page BUT check out this page..."</p> <p>Thoughts? </p> http://www.googletutor.com/forums/topic/h1-tags-and-hyperlinks/page/4#post-91 Fri, 07 Nov 2008 14:34:04 +0000 10minutes 91@http://www.googletutor.com/forums/ <p>This is a funny post but mostly due to the inside joke behind it. This was the exact question posed to Jeremy aka footinmouth when he became the Manager of our department and still wet behind his ears with SEO related practices. This very question is asked of him every couple of months just for the hell of it.</p> <p>@The Tutor</p> <p>I don't think you answered his question but I also don't think he asked it right or was clear enough on it either. However your answer of course is still useful to anyone reading it and then applying your thoughts into their actions.</p> <p>Let me expand on his question a little...</p> <p>Let's take the desired keyword, "Denver Real Estate". We have clients that are always clamoring to be #1 for that specific term; nothing else matters.</p> <p>The first thing we try to do is make the home page relevant to the term using quality unique content with partial use and full use of the keyword term, proper font modifications (H, Bold, Italics etc.) image alt text, anchor text links etc.</p> <p>At that point we realize that the term is competitive enough that one page isn't going to be enough to convince Google that our client(s) site is more relevant than others based off of one well optimized home page so we might start creating pages for the following topics:</p> <p>- Denver Economy<br /> - Denver Schools<br /> - Denver Foreclosures<br /> - Denver Relocation<br /> - Denver Transportation</p> <p>Of course each of these pages would be optimized appropriately and while the H1 might say, "Denver Economy" or what have you; we would strive to find a way to slip in "Denver real estate".</p> <p>So what Jeremy is asking... </p> <p>From the home page H1; is it ok to say link out to the Denver Relocation page or another Denver page which then might tie into the other pages created to purposefully boost over all site relevancy to the Denver related term at the risk of telling search engines, "This is the key focus on the home page BUT check out this page..."</p> <p>Thoughts? </p> http://www.googletutor.com/forums/topic/h1-tags-and-hyperlinks/page/3#post-89 Fri, 07 Nov 2008 14:09:28 +0000 The Tutor 89@http://www.googletutor.com/forums/ <p>the problem here is the flow of link juice. if page A is the most relevant for (City)(Keyword) any links to page B will get some link juice from page A, which reduces the PR of A resulting in possible lower rankings for A.</p> <p>that doesn't mean you don't want to link out, it just means you really have to think about the flow of all the juice relevant to the page you want to rank.</p> <p>nofollow has actually turned out to be a useful tool for this since you an link out however is best for your visitors and just nofollow the links to the pages that you don't want to ge the juice.</p> <p>did that answer your question? </p> http://www.googletutor.com/forums/topic/h1-tags-and-hyperlinks/page/3#post-87 Fri, 07 Nov 2008 13:46:01 +0000 footinmouth 87@http://www.googletutor.com/forums/ <p>I've always wanted to get extra opinions on this subject:</p> <p>Lets say you have a site whose target is (City)(Keyword)<br /> Would hyperlinking that tag to an internal tag be an internal page with heavier relevance to that term? Or would that indicate to google that while your SAYING that (city)(Keyword) is the main topic( by calling it h1), you should actually go to this more focused page for information. </p> http://www.googletutor.com/forums/topic/howdy-from-a-fellow-blogger/page/3#post-82 Fri, 07 Nov 2008 12:15:09 +0000 The Tutor 82@http://www.googletutor.com/forums/ <p>Hi Al, nice to have you here. I really enjoy SMM by the way, I could prob learn something from you guys :) </p> http://www.googletutor.com/forums/topic/howdy-from-a-fellow-blogger/page/3#post-78 Fri, 07 Nov 2008 12:09:46 +0000 AlCarlton 78@http://www.googletutor.com/forums/ <p>Hi everyone, just joined up to see what the master can teach me about Google. </p> http://www.googletutor.com/forums/topic/edit-profile-picture/page/3#post-77 Fri, 07 Nov 2008 12:08:54 +0000 The Tutor 77@http://www.googletutor.com/forums/ <p>I know what you mean there, but gravatars are actually a tool for lazy people since you update once and you pic gets shown all over </p> http://www.googletutor.com/forums/topic/edit-profile-picture/page/3#post-75 Fri, 07 Nov 2008 12:07:04 +0000 arleym 75@http://www.googletutor.com/forums/ <p>I'm way too lazy to go external to do this... Google does it easier &gt;:P haha </p> http://www.googletutor.com/forums/topic/image-alt-text/page/3#post-72 Fri, 07 Nov 2008 09:38:27 +0000 The Tutor 72@http://www.googletutor.com/forums/ <blockquote><p>matching the check boxes with the areas would be to that extent</p></blockquote> <p>If I understand your page setup I'd match the checkbox alt text to the page they are on, and I'd use anchor text and title attribute that matches the sections on the links themselves. </p> http://www.googletutor.com/forums/topic/image-alt-text/page/3#post-67 Thu, 06 Nov 2008 18:51:45 +0000 footinmouth 67@http://www.googletutor.com/forums/ <p>In this case, the goal would be for the most positive effect on rankings for the page. I'm gonna take a stab and say that matching the check boxes with the areas would be to that extent. Would you say it would then be smart to upload them as separate files, named uniquely as well? </p> http://www.googletutor.com/forums/topic/edit-profile-picture/page/2#post-59 Thu, 06 Nov 2008 18:22:17 +0000 The Tutor 59@http://www.googletutor.com/forums/ <p>interesting. Ill figure something out to make it a bit more obvious your pic will show up if you have a gravatar </p> http://www.googletutor.com/forums/topic/edit-profile-picture/page/2#post-57 Thu, 06 Nov 2008 18:20:39 +0000 steph 57@http://www.googletutor.com/forums/ <p>Mine appeared as soon as I posted the response about it not being that self explanatory ... which was pretty much right away. </p> http://www.googletutor.com/forums/topic/image-alt-text/page/2#post-56 Thu, 06 Nov 2008 17:23:56 +0000 The Tutor 56@http://www.googletutor.com/forums/ <p>what is your overall goal? every answer is good depending on the goal. accessibility? usability? rankings? etc. </p> http://www.googletutor.com/forums/topic/image-alt-text/page/2#post-54 Thu, 06 Nov 2008 17:20:56 +0000 footinmouth 54@http://www.googletutor.com/forums/ <p>On a page there is a set of checklist graphics, and next to it there are links that go in deeper to the site for city information.<br /> My question is, should the alt text for those images reflect the anchor text it corosponds with, describe the image itself, or be left blank? </p> http://www.googletutor.com/forums/topic/edit-profile-picture/page/2#post-52 Thu, 06 Nov 2008 17:01:56 +0000 The Tutor 52@http://www.googletutor.com/forums/ <p>i think there is a bit of a delay with gravatars displaying. not sure tho, mine was there right away </p> http://www.googletutor.com/forums/topic/edit-profile-picture/page/2#post-50 Thu, 06 Nov 2008 16:52:36 +0000 steph 50@http://www.googletutor.com/forums/ <p>Ahhhhhh ... actually ... it's really easy. I didn't think mine worked and apparently I have a picture now. I take that last post back. </p> http://www.googletutor.com/forums/topic/edit-profile-picture/page/2#post-49 Thu, 06 Nov 2008 16:51:54 +0000 steph 49@http://www.googletutor.com/forums/ <p>I agree. Not that self explanatory. I'm sure I could figure it out ... but seeing that I'm at work and all ... everything needs to be done on the fly here ... </p> http://www.googletutor.com/forums/topic/why-arent-directories-considered-paid-links/page/2#post-47 Thu, 06 Nov 2008 16:33:59 +0000 The Tutor 47@http://www.googletutor.com/forums/ <p>in general I agree but the algo can do similar simply by using backlinks/trust. meaning I could make a directory that looks and acts great but has lower quality incoming links, google algo will notice that and not trust the links automatically, no matter if a person reviewed it. </p> http://www.googletutor.com/forums/topic/why-arent-directories-considered-paid-links/page/2#post-46 Thu, 06 Nov 2008 16:31:24 +0000 footinmouth 46@http://www.googletutor.com/forums/ <p>I can see that this is one of those areas where Google's policies are a bit conflicted. "That review is why Google acts like it is ok"<br /> It seems like that is a determination that could only be made by hand, and not an algorithm... What do you think? </p> http://www.googletutor.com/forums/topic/why-arent-directories-considered-paid-links/page/2#post-45 Thu, 06 Nov 2008 16:25:07 +0000 The Tutor 45@http://www.googletutor.com/forums/ <p>the short answer: most directories are considered paid and provide little to no value. </p> <p>the reason some still work and can provide value is that you *supposedly* pay for a human review. that review is why google acts like it is ok. </p> http://www.googletutor.com/forums/topic/why-arent-directories-considered-paid-links/page/2#post-44 Thu, 06 Nov 2008 16:16:53 +0000 footinmouth 44@http://www.googletutor.com/forums/ <p>We have all heard the war drum for the past few years, as Google raises the question of paid links. My question is, if you go to a directory, pay a fee, and you are given a link...How is that not considered a paid link? </p> http://www.googletutor.com/forums/topic/edit-profile-picture/page/2#post-43 Thu, 06 Nov 2008 16:15:08 +0000 footinmouth 43@http://www.googletutor.com/forums/ <p>Maybe you could add a link in the profile setup section to setup their gravatar? (Since it's not self explanatory) </p>